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| tehschkott |
 Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:26 pm |
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| jeff |
| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:40 am |
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Welcome to Pinkbike!
I couldn't find the page you were looking for..
No, YOU! |
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| tehschkott |
| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:46 am |
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daywalker
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jeff wrote: Welcome to Pinkbike!
I couldn't find the page you were looking for..
No, YOU!
Dangit - updated |
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| Alex |
| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:51 am |
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Thats how I do it when I'm paying attention to my form. I took the Fluidride class and it made me a lot faster on descents (even gentle ones like the last section of Bootcamp at Duthie).
The Fluidride class has you practice at first on a totally flat corner (180 next to the drop practice area at Duthie) going tighter and faster.then takes you out to the stuff with berms.
It was worth $75 and a better investment than my nice hydraulic XT brakes. |
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| Foo |
| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:33 am |
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Good cornering isn't just for single track. I've found my offroad riding skills have saved my ass many, many times while riding around on wet roads in traffic. I honestly would recommend learning a bit of single track/cyclocross riding to anyone that does urban riding, it greatly improves your overall riding skill. Plus, you know, it's kind of fun.
The physics in that video are kind of broken (pro tip, lowering your outboard pedal does jack all to lower your center of gravity) but the suggestions are correct. Swinging the bike out while keeping your body upright not only helps you corner better but helps to keep you from eating shit if you loose tire grip.
Personally, I've found it easiest to visualize the bike as a pendulum under you that swings out as you go into a turn while you stay perfectly upright like some sort of tea-serving English velocipede butler. |
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| tehschkott |
| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:13 am |
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daywalker
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Dan did you watch the video? The whole point of it was to demonstrate how turning the bike under you and then basically standing on the side of it improved cornering in the dirt.
Pro tip, dropping that outside foot does in fact encourage you to put your weight on it so you apply force there instead say, the saddle where you normally plant your ass.
Basically the video says to do in the dirt the almost exact opposite of what you're saying to do with your pendulum technique - which only works well on an inside banked surface. How do you use that technique to clear an off-camber corner? You can't without losing all your speed and momentum, if you can do it at all.
I agree it's not an intuitive way to go into it, but if you can get it down it works very well in the dirt. |
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| saccade |
| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:50 am |
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Dan is agreeing with the techniques in the vid and you're reading his post backwards
he's also saying that there the weight is loaded is not the same thing as where the CG is, which is correct. Can't lower your CG without lowering your butt. Cornering this way works, but when they draw a circle and call it the "CG", that part is bullshit. |
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| tehschkott |
| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:01 am |
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daywalker
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/scratches head
okay |
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| joeball |
| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:44 pm |
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| tehschkott |
| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:50 pm |
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| Awesome pic - do that in the dirt and you're on your face. |
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| Douglas |
| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:59 pm |
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| Depends on handlebar leverage too. Cutting berms drifting both wheels outside foot down = doing it right. |
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