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| joeball |
Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 7:15 am |
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Location: Over the bridge and up the hill
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| Eric the Red |
Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 9:16 am |
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Joined: 02 May 2010
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Location: In the saddle
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| So fucking awesome. Really makes me want to do some more all day rides. Were you guys riding solo the whole way? Pace lining? 26mph average starting is fucking insane. |
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| jimmythefly |
Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:59 am |
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To be clear 26mph average is what Fred was doing for a while. I was never anywhere near that (well, 22 for a while, until I got a flat and had to drop). My total average was about 13mph (252 miles in about 19:20). My riding average was around 15 or 16. Most stops were maybe 10 minutes, plus a longer lunch at Dairy Queen and almost an hour at Potlatch. Only one stop for food/water was not at a control.
I rode almost the entire time with the same general group of 2-8 guys. We'd sort of bounce around a bit as folks were faster or slower at controls, and as we overtook or were overtaken by other small groupettos. It's way easier to keep a good pace and to navigate when riding with a bunch, nice to sit up when sheltered from the wind and stretch, eat, etc.
Folks were very cool about trying to leave the controls together, we also waited while one of the guys in our group fixed a flat. I got yelled at when I was about 100 yards in front of the groups cruising on an 8 mile long section. I read the cue sheet wrong and the section was actually only 0.4 miles and I had just blown through the turn, it would have been a while before I noticed.
I had a couple of solo stints where I just wanted to zone out alone, or had a tailwind so being in a group didn't matter. Also one at night which as I said before, was a poor decision. |
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| Ductape |
Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:53 am |
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Joined: 06 Mar 2010
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| This is awesome. Congratulations on your adventure... |
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| Eric the Red |
Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 12:37 pm |
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Joined: 02 May 2010
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| I rode with a guy who did all the SIR rides except for the 1200k. Gonna tackle that? 750 miles in less than 96 hours is ridiculous |
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| blasdelf |
Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:02 pm |
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Joined: 01 Mar 2010
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It's a 90h time limit on 1200k brevets
The Cascade 1200 is also organized considerably differently than pretty much all the other grand randoneés with the big mountain passes and remote areas, unless you specifically opt out it's done as two 220mi days and two 165mi days with everyone overnighting in the same places and leaving around the same times together.
Jan and Chris of course will be doing it all at once using receipts to prove they were at controls, and aiming for something like a 50h time |
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| Eric the Red |
Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 6:55 am |
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Joined: 02 May 2010
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| That makes more sense with everybody camping together. Holy shit, so they plan to ride for the entire time? Must be some good drugs to stay awake that long |
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| Andrew_Squirrel |
Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 10:18 am |
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| Jessica |
Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 11:38 am |
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Eric the Red wrote: Must be some good drugs to stay awake that long
Seriously. What kind of stimulants are people on? |
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| blasdelf |
Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 1:57 pm |
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Joined: 01 Mar 2010
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the hardcore ones take roadside naps and shit
Andrew_Squirrel wrote: So with the 1200k, are all meals included and sag wagons provided?
It's not a cruise, no sag wagons, you're supposed to be self-supported (no getting help from your own sag wagon out on the course).
SIR provides snacks and stuff at the manned controls but that's just them being awesome, the other regional organizers aren't at that level. For their 1200k I think they do have breakfast and dinner at the overnights, and some special water stops in eastern washington. |
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| blasdelf |
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:42 pm |
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This weekend I rode this 600k in 36:36 on my Rawland rSogn:
http://seattlerando.org/index.php?option=com_content&id=407
http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=401177
Got off to an inauspicious start — had to get out the door on the bike before 4:20 to safely make the ferry, and figured I should carboload myself into a food coma so I could get right to sleep and wake up with some fuel in me — except I fucked up the timing and ended up laying in bed with a big boost of energy for hours, didn't get a wink of sleep.
Still rode pretty fast into the first control at 92km with the second group, had a nice 8 man double paceline going for most of Old Belfair Road and Hwy 106 along the Hood Canal. By the control at Matlock we had all more or less split up, and it sprinkled a bit, the only rain of the weekend for me. There was a nice road descent and gravel climb, I stopped at the top to leisurely eat a burrito and stupidly let people go by + left on my own.
At one point I stopped to look at my phone (no signal) because the cues weren't making sense and a bunch of the roads had nearly-identical names with limited signage. Also my odometer was what I later calculated to be 7.2% off. A couple on a tandem blew by and I rode up to catch them figuring I must be ok, turns out we'd both mismatched the same cue and just missed the turn. Didn't figure that out until too late and ended up doing an extra 30km into the ass end of Aberdeen and out on the highway with awful headwinds. Losing well over an hour there took us from being in the ~85th percentile to the ~15th.
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We caught a small group on 101 that had just finished refueling at a store and I rode the rest of the way into Lake Quinalt with them. I rode away from them on the climb out and waited at the top for several minutes — except I'd just gone out the way we came instead of taking the correct turn, so they assumed I'd just ridden away from them. I rode the remaining 110km to Forks completely solo, at half the speed I'd been riding in the morning. The tandem blew by me again while I was putting on a shirt and the stoker handed me my cue sheet (thank god). I caught my former slowpoke group at the Kalaloch control just as they were leaving, and also just in time to get an Americano before she locked up (there was a special control elsewhere just outside the park boundary for les lanternes rouges).
I took this pic of the sun setting over a creek a bit south of Ruby Beach, one of many many little stops I made on my way into Forks. I think I was doing it about once a mile, putting my feet down for a minute at the crest of a roller and finding something to do — eat, drink, layer, pee. I'd also managed to delude myself into thinking that Forks was half as far away as it really was from Kalaloch, and when my interpretation of the mile markers was well short of the signed distance I just thought "oh the motel must be in the south end of Forks, what a stretched out town". It was a useful delusion.
All the way into Forks solo I could not figure out why my biceps ached so much, I mean I know I've got Schleck arms but this was kinda silly. It turns out my right bib strap had slipped down my arm into the sleeve pressing in, and I compensated with my left effectively riding onehanded. I sat eating chili and bread with a hot or cold towel on my shoulder for half an hour and then managed to get 3 hours of good sleep in a shared motel bed. It was kinda funny just how high my heart rate was when I went to sleep and when I woke up.
I spent a whole hour getting ready and eating frittata, so I left for the out and back to La Push on the coast solo. Going out I was pretty brain fried, descended in the little ring for several miles and couldn't figure out how I was going so slow. At the beach I caught up with Michael Johnson from Portland (who I'd been double-pacelining with Saturday) and his buddy John, we rode together for almost the entire rest of the day with occasional splits. Riding up out of La Push was somehow half the difficulty of riding in.
Riding 101 on the south shore of Lake Crescent was a little tight with zero shoulder, but East Beach Road on the northern shore was just amazing (Mike's pic of me):
One tight twisty rollercoaster lane with no traffic, that turned into a solid two lane road for the climb out. It looks like there's a dirt rail trail on the section of shoreline we didn't ride on, plus some singletrack that connects to forest service roads up on the ridgeline. Definitely going back there sometime!
While riding 101 through Port Angeles I was puzzled, why were we avoiding the Olympic Discovery Trail so thoroughly between Elwha and Blyn? I didn't realize it at the time but we even rode over the road deck of the new bridge they just built:
But later on where the trail paralleled the highway I saw the first one, shortly after they paralleled again and I saw a whole bunch more — runners, with bib numbers pinned on. Looked it up later to be the North Olympic Discovery Marathon, with ~400 full marathoners, ~2000 total entrants, and aid stations everywhere. 101 was pretty obnoxious through there but thank god I didn't try going off route through that clusterfuck.
Through the home stretch I stopped to help fix a few flats, and got one of my own immediately after getting onto 101 coming out of Sequim, some kind of metal spike that sent sparks all over behind me. I thought it put a hop in my rim but it looks like it's actually the tire, need to see if the casing's fucked up at all or if it's just not fully seated. I dropped off solo again just before the Hood Canal floating bridge to get a smoothie and cruised to the finish, where I hung out with what seemed like the whole Portland crew before catching a late ferry.
420 miles total with going off route and the commute to/from the Edmonds Ferry. Overall I felt and feel pretty good with a few big exceptions, didn't have any back trouble 100+ miles in like I've had on my Time. For some reason my chest was sore Sunday, concentrated right along the centerline of my body between my belly button and ribcage, kind of like it was bruised but I couldn't see anything. I also got peen numbness for the first time ever in the last 50k or so, didn't even really figure out it was happening until after the finish and it took quite a while to wear off completely.
The major issue was my right knee, it was pretty sore from 200-300k and 400-600k, then quite noticeably shitty riding home from the ferry, I ended up using my 34x28 and 34x32 bailout gears riding out of Edmonds and actually walked the steepest part of the hill up to my house from the Burke, which I normally only ever do when both really drunk and hauling a bunch of crap (or the sober but stupider equivalent, pulling a trailer). I survived pretty damn well thanks to having a round pedal stroke, but I couldn't sprint for shit when it was bothering me.
It was worse Monday but has been healing up well today, the pain was concentrated on the inner side near the top of the kneecap and on my shin. I'd gotten a similar pain towards the end of the 300k and afterward, but not on the 400k. I'd had a suspicion before that I might have an functional leg length discrepancy given the way my saddles wear, but now I'm quite sure especially since I could modulate it by extending my right ankle differently as I pedaled. I'm pretty sure I'll end up using cleat shims on my road shoes, but I'll have to see a real medical pro about that given how many fitters I've seen put the shims on the wrong feet, and how long of a ride it would take for me to tell.
The Cascade 1200 is way too soon to be able to figure that shit out for sure, so I'll do that some other year. |
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| tehschkott |
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:35 am |
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| get a car, hippie |
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| Andrew_Squirrel |
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:07 am |
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| rob |
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:14 am |
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I'm sensing a disturbing pattern here....
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