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| blasdelf |
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This Sunday (3/4) there's a free and friendly 100K meeting in Woodland Park at 8am
Then next Saturday (3/10) there's a pretty damn rad 200K, the only problem is having to be in fucking Auburn by 6:30am! I've been on about half the route before and those are some sweet roads to be riding, if someone would consider driving I'd love to join you.
And a few saturdays later (3/24) there's a 300k up to Verlot that leaves from U-Village! Sure you'll need to be there at 5:30am but it doesn't involve an 45m+ drive beforehand. They've been getting some sass for starting all their rides in the outer exurbs, it'd be nice to show them that the city-dwelling whippersnappers will show if the ride is within reach. |
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| tehschkott |
| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:24 am |
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| Fred buddy - let's talk. |
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| ksep |
| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:49 am |
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blasdelf wrote:
They've been getting some sass for starting all their rides in the outer exurbs, it'd be nice to show them that the city-dwelling whippersnappers will show if the ride is within reach.
And the route with the carless city-dwellers friendly start point on 3/4 (Sunday!) looks pretty damn sweet too. Quote the ride description: "take you to a great spot to view the Edmonds Ferry that you’ve probably never been to before." That's so .83
Fred have you ridden with these guys before? What's up with all this shit about showing up 45 minutes early to register? And regarding the March 4th ride specifically requesting me to pre-register as well. Huh? I thought this was self supported, is there an emergency sag wagon or something? |
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| tehschkott |
| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:08 am |
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| I've ridden with these guys. They're legit. Several are friends. Robert Higdon, Christopher Vaughn-Gay and other dudes on Soft Like Kitten - they too have a Thursday ride. Smaller, and out of Georgetown, they're good people. |
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| blasdelf |
| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:57 am |
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ksep wrote: Fred have you ridden with these guys before? What's up with all this shit about showing up 45 minutes early to register? And regarding the March 4th ride specifically requesting me to pre-register as well. Huh? I thought this was self supported, is there an emergency sag wagon or something?
If you pre-register you won't have to fill out the whole form when you get there
Randoneuring is basically bicycling mixed with bookkeeping
With some historical reenactment flavor harkening back to postwar Paris and attendant franco-talmudic rules-lawyering.
The events are all technically self-supported and not races, but there are checkpoints and detailed records with timing are kept, mailed to the 'owner' of the route, and eventually mailed back to you. The routes are approved by a national organizing body, which is in turn a member of an international collective. You get awarded little medals for completing events and passing milestones.
The SIR brevets pretty much always have a tent with hot water, instant oatmeal, ramen, V8, gatorade, etc. at one of the "contrôles" along the route where your card is signed. But there is never a traditional sag wagon like on a fredded out charity ride. On the 600k+ brevets where there may be an arranged indoor place to sleep, they'll transport a drop bag for you to there from the start.
This is all kind of weird, I know, they're kind of like the Masons of endurance cycling. Very nice people.
Now that they've been doing monthly populaires (free rides) that are less rigidly organized, I would not necessarily expect there to be a tent with V8 and everything on the route of Sunday's 100k. But I would def expect something of that sort to be there on the 200k and 300k. |
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| saccade |
| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:43 am |
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| joeball |
| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:59 am |
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| blasdelf |
| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:50 pm |
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well short flat lakefront puttering along rides don't exactly get me out the door in the morning with 12 hours notice |
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| caustic meatloaf |
| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:59 pm |
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Not to shamelessply plug an organization, but the Tour De Cure century course is a pretty good one as an icebreaker. SAG stops every 10-15 miles, and the course is varied and interesting. |
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| dashap |
| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:19 pm |
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| limpyweta |
| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:45 pm |
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ksep wrote:
Fred have you ridden with these guys before?
I did coincidentally on my way to Belfair, so great. |
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| blasdelf |
| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:42 pm |
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caustic meatloaf wrote: Not to shamelessply plug an organization, but the Tour De Cure century course is a pretty good one as an icebreaker. SAG stops every 10-15 miles, and the course is varied and interesting.
as much as I despise charity rides, that's actually a good course: http://main.diabetes.org/site/DocServer/2012_-_100_mile_route.pdf?docID=92598
both of those north-south routes are regularly used by a lot of SIR brevets and permanents, and you may remember the eastern one from Ben Country 6 |
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| Alex |
| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:17 pm |
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joeball wrote:
I need still need to check off a true imperial century for my accomplishments.
We should do a .83 mountain loop highway century this summer. That was my favorite ride last year, and Jimmy and I did a nearly century of it. Unloaded it should be pretty easy to do as a century. |
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| caustic meatloaf |
| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:22 pm |
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A buddy of mine's a Type I, so I ride it with him every year. All you can eat snacks & drinks at the SAG stops though. And it's a great fredwatching adventure.
Last year, a good friend of mine visited from Spokane, and wanted to do the century as her first century in preparation for training for the Cour D'Laine Ironman. She enjoyed both the ride, and the fact that there are a *Lot* of weekendwarrior team groups who apparently don't like it when a 120lb woman blows by their entire paceline while climbing a hill. |
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| caustic meatloaf |
| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:24 pm |
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Alex wrote: joeball wrote:
I need still need to check off a true imperial century for my accomplishments.
We should do a .83 mountain loop highway century this summer. That was my favorite ride last year, and Jimmy and I did a nearly century of it. Unloaded it should be pretty easy to do as a century.
Another great century would be the Mukilteo - Deception Pass - Widbey Island to Clinton loop. It ends up being about 115 miles, but still pretty nice. |
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| jimmythefly |
| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:39 pm |
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Alex wrote: joeball wrote:
I need still need to check off a true imperial century for my accomplishments.
We should do a .83 mountain loop highway century this summer. That was my favorite ride last year, and Jimmy and I did a nearly century of it. Unloaded it should be pretty easy to do as a century.
I thought that Kitsap peninsula DNR land exploratory loop thingy was 63 miles? |
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| jimmythefly |
| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:44 pm |
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Also, I want to do this sundays 100k, but need to see how Friday goes first.
Same thing for the 200k on the 10th. Fred and Peter, let me get back to you on that, I should be able to drive. Will know in a day or so.
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| Alex |
| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:51 pm |
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jimmythefly wrote: Alex wrote: joeball wrote:
I need still need to check off a true imperial century for my accomplishments.
We should do a .83 mountain loop highway century this summer. That was my favorite ride last year, and Jimmy and I did a nearly century of it. Unloaded it should be pretty easy to do as a century.
I thought that Kitsap peninsula DNR land exploratory loop thingy was 63 miles?
That is only a metric centry though, Andre wanted an imperial one. Mountain Loop Highway is very close to 100 miles (either just under or just over). |
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| blasdelf |
| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:08 pm |
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| and the ~12 mile dirt descent off the northeast side of the pass is fun as hell to do all balls to the wall |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:15 pm |
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| These folks have always interested me. I met a guy the year I did STP from the SIR. He said half joking half serious, 'when you're ready to do some distance riding get in touch with us. ' turned out he was a former Olympic rider from Europe. His wife seemed thrilled about all the riding he was doing. |
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| ksep |
| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:52 am |
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Fred thanks for the heads-up, the 100K was a lot of fun. Evil Mike was in the mix too.
SIR is well organized (the firestation pit stop had a great spread!), the riders I spoke to were friendly, there was some good bike nerd porn (everyone had fenders), and I discovered some new cool parks & spots along the Sound. SIR also had free 100K ride pins at the end, legit!
But man, I guess I haven't been riding much this winter. The headwind on the way back was kicking my ass. I couldn't imagine doing the whole loop again let alone 3 times. Good luck on those 200K/300K events, I don't think I could handle one until the summer rolls around. |
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| tehschkott |
| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:38 pm |
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ksep wrote: Fred thanks for the heads-up, the 100K was a lot of fun. Evil Mike was in the mix too.
SIR is well organized (the firestation pit stop had a great spread!), the riders I spoke to were friendly, there was some good bike nerd porn (everyone had fenders), and I discovered some new cool parks & spots along the Sound. SIR also had free 100K ride pins at the end, legit!
But man, I guess I haven't been riding much this winter. The headwind on the way back was kicking my ass. I couldn't imagine doing the whole loop again let alone 3 times. Good luck on those 200K/300K events, I don't think I could handle one until the summer rolls around.
Glad this was as fun as promised. But same loop 3 times? Sounds boring as shit. Surely that's not the difference between 100k/200k/300k. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:56 pm |
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No SIR's longer rides at not loops of the shorter ones. If you are interested you can look up a lot of their routes on their website.
The 400s and 600s get into some really interesting areas and are worth reading about and turning into tour routes. |
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| ksep |
| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:20 pm |
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| Yeah what Alex said, they're not loops. Sorry, I was just using "doing it again" as a measure of approximate amount of effort/time involved in completing the longer distance rides. Like if you ran a half marathon, could you imagine doing the whole thing over again once you get to the finishline? Oouf. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:35 pm |
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ksep wrote: Fred thanks for the heads-up, the 100K was a lot of fun. Evil Mike was in the mix too.
SIR is well organized (the firestation pit stop had a great spread!), the riders I spoke to were friendly, there was some good bike nerd porn (everyone had fenders), and I discovered some new cool parks & spots along the Sound. SIR also had free 100K ride pins at the end, legit!
But man, I guess I haven't been riding much this winter. The headwind on the way back was kicking my ass. I couldn't imagine doing the whole loop again let alone 3 times. Good luck on those 200K/300K events, I don't think I could handle one until the summer rolls around.
The headwind killed me. That exact same route with slightly less wind would have been A-OK. Amazing trip anywise - that route to Everett, while really challenging, is beautiful and pretty safe. The bomb down Innis Arden will be forever the best bomb in the area.
I barely finished in time due to the headwind, however. I think the last 20 miles, I was boned to the tune of about 8mph. I had about 3 minutes left on the final control when I checked in.
Good times all around. Looking forward to a 200k now. |
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| blasdelf |
| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:16 pm |
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Yeah I also just sat up and cruised for that last 25 miles of interurban with a headwind: http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=357517
I'm sure some of the earlier groups were pacelining it but the people I'd hung back with didn't seem too comfortable even being pulled. If it was summer there would've been a tailwind and no complaints from me. |
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| jimmythefly |
| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:04 pm |
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If not now, when?
I'm in for the 200k. Fred and Peter, I can pick y'all up on my way out of town.
In theory I will have a newly-assembled bike to ride on this, but we know how that goes, so probably will be on the Novara. |
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| blasdelf |
| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:33 pm |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:51 am |
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It was awesome and long and wet and chilly and awesome. Fred, Peter, and I left Seattle about 5:20am, got to Auburn with perfect time to get all set up and ready for the 7am roll-out.
We finished together, 9h56m total time.
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| ripper |
| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:31 pm |
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| Jimmy, did you guys drive-to-ride, or did you ride to the start? It was a shitty, wet rainy day, so awesome that you finished - it took me nearly 8 hours for the 100k, so I guess I'm not even close to 200k shape yet. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:42 pm |
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| Drive-to-the-start! I wasn't about to add 35 miles to what was already my longest single-day ride to date. |
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| tehschkott |
| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:20 pm |
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| That was my question too. |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:48 pm |
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Rode this 300k on saturday: http://seattlerando.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=410:spring-300k-acp-&catid=45:2012-brevets&Itemid=28
Actual route here, a Garmin reported 7365ft of climbing: http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=368140
Getting up and out the door on my bike before 5am is MEH INCARNATE but it really does make the timing of it all work.
I was at the very tail end of the group out of the start from repacking my bag, but rode right past 50 people easily since it began with a mile long climb. I rode with some guys I know from Olympia for a while, we caught a group in front of us at a stoplight, and I ended up joining them instead when the oly guys insisted on following the cue sheet too closely instead of respecting my absolute knowledge of the BGT.
I'd never taken the route through Woodinville before and was pretty suspicous, but it turned out to be way more awesome than Wood-Duvall Rd. I'd take y'all that way sometime but you'd murder me over the extra few hundred feet of climbing at steep grades. On one of those grades I'm doing well and a guy rides up to tell me that I shouldn't try to catch the pair in front of me, "because they are ANIMALS". I look ahead and realize that yes, that's friggin Chris Ragsdale and no I am not gonna get between him and anything he wants. I was in the lead pack of about 7 as we drop down to the Snoqualmie River valley where it was 25° and just after dawn. Apparently Jan Heine intentionally went off-course to take a 'better route' which I could've told him was longer with a pointless descent+climb since it's my fuckin commute.
Chris pulls us at a ludicrous speed through freezing fog for 10k, and then lets me pull up a hill for a bit. After rolling through Monroe his buddy gets a flat, he insists we keep going and that they'll catch up, which they did ~20 minutes later — meaning they rode nearly twice as fast as we did through rolling hills. Around the 70k mark I realize that they've all been sucking down packets of goop this whole time while I haven't eaten a thing, and I can feel the trouble coming when I take another pull at the front. So I drop off their pack to sit up and eat frozen granola bars, Jan's group of three doesn't catch me for another 10k. They peel out after Granite Falls up the Mt. Loop Highway, and I hung back since I knew there'd be a terrible stretch coming up from the last time I rode there, 1 mile at an exact 10% grade in a straight line right up the hill. Jan passes me first coming back down, having spent the minimum time at the control at Verlot.
I got there (102k with well over half the climbing) in under 4 hours, but then ended up spending a full 30 minutes eating all the foods, letting groups arrive and leave while I was there — which in a process of assortative mating determined my pace pretty firmly. I rode the next 30k completely solo, but then ran across two dudes I knew from other bike shit (both PBP anciens) finishing up fixing a flat, and I rode with them the entire rest of the brevet. We caught a guy on a singlespeed and rode together for 20k but he took off immediately while we lingered at the control at 172k, from there we didn't see another randobro till the finish.
Neither of them was having a very good day, one was feeling pretty terrible and the other hadn't been putting on many miles all winter or even ridden a derailleured bike. I was pretty happy to stick to their pace and take long pulls, the rest of the terrain was all easy and pretty as hell with the sun out. I think we took nearly 6 hours for the last 100k just kinda puttering through a bunch of it, and finished in something like 13:55, two hours behind the lead. I spent over an hour stopped overall. |
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 1:52 pm |
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Jimmy and I did this 400k on Saturday with a buddy of ours from Portland and 50 old dudes in hi-viz vests:
http://seattlerando.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=408:spring-400k-acp&catid=45:2012-brevets&Itemid=28
http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=126180
We stayed at Jimmy's place Friday night and rolled down to the start together but I didn't see them after that, because I jumped on the front with Chris Ragsdale's crew of sub-48h PBP anciennes / Furnace Creek 508 placers / RAAM racers (Heine and a couple others were there too). Did that for the first 1:15, at a 26mph *average* pace including hills in and out of Belfair to Shelton and a quick stop when a dude ejected both bottles from his carbon cages with one jammed on top of his BB. I dropped off as their pace was nowhere near sustainable for me.
I fell in with the next group that had caught them and dropped off a bit before me, and the four of us (Mark Thomas was the only one I really knew) more or less stuck together till the finish, yoyoing back and forth in different orders and bunching up at controls. I rode a great deal of it with just a guy John, who was having really bad stomach problems that kept getting worse with different synthetic foods, he kept insisting I leave him but I insisted that I wasn't doing so hot myself with my own stomach and back problems, and that he was keeping my pace sane and giving me someone to stand up and stretch behind. At the last control we spent 30-60min eating fries (seriously, they had a lil generator just to run a FRYER) and hot cheese+potato soup and were both all better. Michael Wolfe pulled up on his recumbent after we got there and was fresh + ready quick, the five of us all finished together
252 miles in 15:09 — first group without deep carbon wheels and/or inhumanity, still had 90 minutes to spare before the last ferry back (everyone in the five hours after that had to wait for the first ferry Sunday, they had rooms to nap in).
Chris Ragsdale's crew finished at 13:32, but they had several flats *apiece* and so spent like 2h stopped total dealing with all that.
There was another couple of really rad old hard men that finished around 14:50 that dropped off of the Ragsdale pace somewhere around 300k, and a couple more individual riders that arrived 30-60min after us we all hung out eating pizza and drinking beer in the main hotel room at the finish and then on the hour-long ferry ride.
The time limit for the course was 27 hours, but it was such a good day and it seemed like everyone finished a lot faster than they thought they would: http://brevets.seattlerando.org/events/results/242 |
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| Hot damn, that is badass, I would love to be in good enough shape to do that some day. Thanks for the write-up. How did you fare Jimmy? |
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| Dayum. The longest I've ever ridden is 120 miles LESS than that. fuuuuuck |
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 2:54 pm |
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It was pretty awesome. Hardly any elevation, tailwinds on coast section, good people to ride with. This was twice the distance I have ever done in one go. I had a flat about 5 miles into the ride, other than that zero mechanicals. After that many miles and that much time on the bike I've discovered a few things that need adjusting to help with toe numbness, too much weight on my hands, saddle issues, etc.
South of Westport:
I rode the 20 miles from Potlatch to Belfair alone at about 11pm. That was dumb, I was half asleep, weaving all over, not moving fast or efficiently, looking for lawn chairs to stop and nap in. A few guys caught up with me in Belfair and we rode together from there, much faster, conversation to keep you awake, less chance of making a navigational error, etc.
It's fun to look at the cards and see how different my pace was from Fred's. Also, note that those are check-in times at controls, I'm sure I loitered a bit longer at some of them than Fred, in addition to riding a slower pace overall.
I waaay over-packed. The wet/cold/rainy 200k spooked me, so I made sure I had enough food and clothing to ride and fuel all night long. In reality the weather was beautiful, and there were enough 24hr convenience stores that I didn't need to bring as much food as I thought.
One thing I didn't do was try and of the ensure/science diet/boost meal-replacement type drinks. Might have to experiment with those, as I came close to bonking a couple of times partially because I jsut wasn't interested in eating anything I had with me. Also I drink a fuckton of water. Might need to equip for 3 bottles.
Overall great experience, A++ would deal with again. |
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 4:40 pm |
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I didn't get as lucky as Jimmy did with the wind, had pretty stiff headwinds along the coast, and mild headwinds for at least a hundred miles of the course. Only tailwinds I really remember were on the return legs of the out-and-backs to the two manned controls, and on some of the descents.
We definitely didn't get nearly enough sleep the night before. I took an Adrafinil at Westhaven that def. got me sorted through the rest of the ride and drank 3 Cokes for the caffeine, but I was still mentally fatigued later on and touched wheels a number of times.
I def want to try out the sciencey meal drinks / goos / gummies, but don't really wanna start on a big ride like this in case my stomach doesn't like them.
If I do the 600k I'll probably ride my Rawland and stick to the pace Jimmy was on, just to see what's up with that and hang out with the other people doing it that way. |
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| caustic meatloaf |
| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 5:12 pm |
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Was that riding continuous? What kind of breaks did you guys do?
The only rides I can think of that would be comparable would the couple of century rides I do every year, and usually with those you gotta eat like its a job or else you feel like total shit. The hard thing is that since you're working, the body keeps telling itself to reduce your hunger and thirst impulses, since it figures you're running away from a tiger or something, and food can wait. |
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 7:03 pm |
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Joined: 01 Mar 2010
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I spent like 3 minutes at each of the gas stations in Shelton and Cosmopolis just filling bottles and getting my card signed, probably 10-12 in Westhaven sitting down eating brownies + bananas and drinking Coke, another 10 or so sitting in front of a gas station in Raymond eating an ice cream bar and drinking xtreme chocolate milk. I did stop with a guy at a gas station in Montesano for a good 10 minutes, he needed Tums real bad and some time to digest them, and I fogged up the mirror in the bathroom taking the tiniest lil' poop. I didn't have a good sense of how long I was at Potlach, but based on being near Twanoh at 9pm I must have spent 30-40 minutes there maxing and relaxing.
Basically just one real stop not on the card. There were maybe 4x minute-long piss stops that the fast people I was riding with called — in their style this entails pulling off onto a wide shoulder / slow vehicle turnout, unclipping your right foot, pulling down your bib and pissing off to the side.
So I spent maybe 1:20 cumulatively off the bike, with sections of 2 hours or so on with maybe a footdown or two in between for major intersections or pissing. There's more opportunities to get your stretch on than you'd think, I would sometimes shift into a harder gear and stand up when rotating off the front to the rear, when climbing, and even on some descents since bombing them faster than my compatriots would have been counterproductive. |
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